Debate - Brief history and format in Malaysia

3:48 AM / Comments (15) / by Unknown

This post serves as a compliment to what Ali wrote previously titled "Debat Itu Universal" in the main DEMI blog.

True, debate is applicable to whoever the person may be despite their cultural, environmental and social background. However, the definition of debate doesn't necessarily bound to every person as some would label "debate" as a formal discussion. In addition, debate has many styles throughout the globe that has their own set of rules such as the one use in Malaysian tertiary institution.

Since the early days of the Greeks, it was claimed that Isocrates was the teacher of public speaking. There were more to come after him, but this established the Greeks to be the first culture and society to have debate within their community. As this became widespread to other society for the sake of democracy, many great debaters and speakers came about that deliver their key points on the topic matter. Now, debate is covered in such a world wide perspective that majority of political system would contain debate as an element of governance. However, in some societies, debate isn't an integral part of their daily lives and can be seen rather as an argument case.

In places where censorship exhibits much strength than the freedom of speech, debate is not part of the society. Nor is it considered as a right for the unfortunate citizens. In this viewpoint, debate isn't universal and that it would be an overstatement that all can debate. I know that Ali is just referring the fact that any student can debate when he meant by universal, which is quite obvious and truism. Then again, is it? What got me pondering was whether he referred 'debat' as Malaysian parliamentary style? Or debating in general, which includes the debating styles overseas? If he were to refer the Malaysian parliamentary style, then it would be an overstatement as not everyone can debate in Bahasa Malaysia. However, if the scope were to refer debating in general, then it is sensible. Anyone can debate, but not everyone can debate in Malaysian parliamentary style debate in Bahasa Malaysia (yes, including me).

Going back, it was the Greeks who established themselves as the pioneers in debating. Through the age of time, debating has widespread to other english speaking nations that each has developed their unique style and format. In Malaysia, it is a fact that the nation follows the Australasian style debate and Asian University Debating Championship format. This is because both sides have 3 speakers with the leader, the deputy leade and the whip as each speaker is given 7 minutes to deliver their speeh, and both sides are given a 4 minute speech to deliver their overall argument. The debating style in Bahasa Malaysia follows this format as it is being translated from the English format. I may not know exactly how debating in Malaysia came about, but this is just an obvious conclusion.

So for all those new debaters out there, it takes hard work and full dedication if you want to be a good debater like the past champions. However, never think negatively when you lose or failed miserable as each mistakes help you to be the better person you want to be. You can debate, but if you're like me, then not everyone can debate in Bahasa Malaysia. ;D

15 comments:

Anonymous @ January 3, 2009 at 2:46 AM

"debat itu universal" TRULY TRUE!!! even u debate on ali definitions of the 'universal' terminilogy. everything in the universe are debatable. universal right!!

Unknown @ January 4, 2009 at 6:14 AM

true debate is universal, but the impression i get is that he's referrin the context within Malaysia.. so that's why I felt confuse as to what he define debate, bcuz by saying universal he should have use examples in a global perspective, not among Malaysian public universities.. and besides, what about private universities? don't they get any mention as well?

Anonymous @ January 5, 2009 at 9:53 AM

errmmm..i'm quite agree wit u. but i stil tought the scope r sensible bcoz debating isnt a talent. learning is d key. but, somehow...mybe that's ali universal or "dunia ali".. hard to takes. sory ali.

Anonymous @ January 5, 2009 at 8:34 PM

Actually, in my article "debat itu universal",

i want to change the mindset among student about the debate...

Some student think that debate only for certain person whose talented.

As Abg Ahami said,"learning is d key." All of us can debate when we want to debate... at the same time we try to to improve our skill by learning from orher whose have knowledge about debate...

I'm not focus only on the Malaysian Parliamentary style or Malay debate... im just one people know that debate is universal, anyone can debate if they want...

As Abg Acoi said, "Kita tidak boleh meminggirkan debat, kerana ia tuntutan semasa." Its show that, we as University student must know the art of debate, not only for BM, but also in english or other language....

thnx

Unknown @ January 6, 2009 at 7:41 AM

Ali, trust me, changing the mindset of the students on debating is very challenging. You need to highlight on three things: i) problems of university graduates; ii) full definition of soft skills; and iii) the numerous ways that debate can improve their skills as an individual and be an efficient team player.

There are times when we all don't see the full picture, and miss out the small details that are still vital. You have the position of being active with DEMI, and you already know just what is are the things that the student goes through. Identify those issue for them, make them realize that you as a student also know how tough it is to study and all.

Soft skills are exactly what employers are looking for. However, many people think soft skills refers to communication, when in fact it deals more than that. Soft skills also look into how one person is a value in a team, and of course, how the person functions in a corporate world.

We both know that being a debater has many benefits, and you need to list them out. Show to it how these 'capabilities' will enrich them to be a functional individual once they have graduated. Just like a debate, we also want to show to these students just how the benefits that they gain from being a debater can be applicable when they carry out their tasks at work (i.e. 30 minute time practice helps the person to strategize, delivering the speech will help the person how to be confident when sharing their ideas and opinions, etc.).

Have a group discussion with other DEMI members (and please do include the English debaters). Get your heads together, and I'm sure you guys will make a better impact to change the mindset of these students.

Anonymous @ January 6, 2009 at 9:02 AM

wow..what a beautiful discussions.. tapi mana ahli DEMI yg lain? seems like just ali r interested and commited to dis blog. adding to jimi opinions, be the role model giv d greatest impact. but jimi was rite. change d mindset was vry chlging.but dont let it weakenng u. Insya Allah.

o tru dis blog for d couples of days make really mis the oldtimes in DEMI. jimi (and so the other alumni) come here.. hv some tea n lets helps the juniors.

Unknown @ January 7, 2009 at 5:51 AM

Thanks for your compliments Syahmi, and just like any drinks in the east coast, your words are just so sweet. Hehe.. ;D

Hey, I wish I could come and help, but I got my obligations, and that is to be busy playing around with the orangutans in the Ape Centre at Zoo Negara. Hahaha.. ;D

Anonymous @ January 7, 2009 at 10:26 AM

jimi, dont u remember n mis when we r togther with sabihah,barry n jamuna at mizan. ur n ur teamates tears..hahaha.. it's wonderful rite. juz hoping that i got another chance to be in a team.. a debate team..huhuhu.. haha.. i'm caught in memory.. i already slip awy from the main isue. sory..

Unknown @ January 11, 2009 at 7:31 AM

Owh, you bet I do.. That PISZA 2006 was truly memorable.. I'm just glad that KUKTEM won over the selfish UiTM Dungun.. How I wish you met with Hanushia as well, she came in the english debate for the Royals 2007 back in UiTM..

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